[ODFPlugtest] Gouda plugfest: problem case with ODT frames encountered in OEP project

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi Willem-Jan,

please by patient - I will come back to your problem (hopefully) next week.

BTW; you can call me just Oliver - my mother intented Rainer to be my
second firstname, but somehow the dash comes in resulting in the very
unique firstname Oliver-Rainer.


Best regards, Oliver.

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From:	Willem-Jan Veen <willem at lunatech.com>
To:	Oliver-Rainer Wittmann/Germany/IBM at IBMDE
Cc:	ODF Plugfest mailinglist <plugtest at opendocsociety.org>
Date:	24.11.2011 11:33
Subject:	Re: [ODFPlugtest] Gouda plugfest: problem case with ODT frames
            encountered in OEP project



Hi Olivier-Rainer,

I've made the other scenario showing a problem with flow (float) semantics.
This time it relates to a paragraph containing a draw:line element, that
didn't fit on a page. As a result, the line flows to the next page (good)
on top of the text in the following paragraph (wrong).

See the attached sample document that I've stripped to the bare minimum for
show casing the observed behaviour. Again, I hope you understand better
what is going on and  maybe know a way to resolve this issue.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards,

Willem-Jan

[attachment "Tractatenblad-experiment.odt" deleted by Oliver-Rainer
Wittmann/Germany/IBM]


On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

> Hi Willem-Jan,
>
> we already had the possibility to talk at the end of the ODF Plugfest in
> Gouda, NL last week about your layout problems in some detail.
> I think I have already given you some hints in order to get more control
> about the layout regarding the flow of text frames in OpenOffice.org
resp.
> Apache OpenOffice.
>
> As promised I am planning to followup on your problems in more detail
when
> I have some resources left. Hopefully, I have some time in the next week.
> I hope it is ok for the rest of the mailing list subscribers, if I post
the
> followup on this mailing list, because - as far as I have seen - the
> problems are more or less related to applications which base on
> OpenOffice.org code than they are related to ODF.
> If not, please let me know.
>
> Willem-Jan: Do not hestitate to ping me, if you have
questions/comments/...
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>
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>
> IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des
> Aufsichtsrats: Martin Jetter
> Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht
Stuttgart,
> HRB 243294
>
>
>
> From:		 Willem-Jan Veen <willem at lunatech.com>
> To:		 plugtest at opendocsociety.org
> Date:		 18.11.2011 10:45
> Subject:		 [ODFPlugtest] Gouda plugfest: problem case with ODT
frames
>            encountered in OEP project
> Sent by:		 plugtest-bounces at opendocsociety.org
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The problem case with frames concern for instance the inclusion of an
image
> with a title on top and additional remarks on the bottom. In the specific
> situation that the image doesn't fit on the remainder of the page, it
> automatically floats to the next page (what is good), but the positioning
> of the frames with title, image and remarks become scrambled.
>
> I've attached a small ODT file which demonstrates this behaviour. It
first
> shows a image with title and remarks which are rendered correctly
position
> to each other. A page further, in identical example is presented but this
> time the image didn't fit on the remainder of the page and floated to the
> next page. You can immediately see the resulting visual effects when
opened
> in openoffice or neo-office.
>
> Please note, that the ODT isn't correctly zipped. The original ODT was
much
> larger, so I unzipped de ODT, manually removed as much content as
possible
> while keeping the problem case intact. I then zipped the ODT quickly by
> hand without placing the file mime type as-is on the starting offset. In
> our experience, this doesn't pose a problem for rendering such a document
> in a word processor. The real system does do the final zip process
> according to specification.
>
> Regards,
> Willem-Jan Veen
>
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