[ODFPlugtest] Outcome scenario's Dutch vendors
Jos van den Oever
jos at vandenoever.info
Tue Nov 22 09:30:43 CET 2011
Thank you for the summary. Here are some additions. Important information for
fixing some of the issues is currently missing: which application shows which
errors? I did not take notes of this relation and I hope someone did.
On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 00:20:04 AM Joris Dirks wrote:
> For those who attended the plugfest in Gouda: thanks for your involvement.
> In the Dutch track, we tested two scenario's, where vendors used real-world
> templates to generate documents.
>
> We concluded (but Bart will probably have to fill me in here):
> - proprietary fonts like Times New Roman cause problems with rendering on
> linux systems (we'll try and see if the handbook on certain documents can
> be changed to include open fonts)
In ODF, while font-embedding is in it's infancy in the implementations, the
ODF standard clearly documents it since version 1.0. It is worthwhile to start
embedding fonts right now. I would love to write an article on a best practice
for doing so. What would be a good place to put this?
Without font embedding, rendering issues can be minimized by using fonts that
are very likely to be present on the user side. Most systems have the fonts of
Monotype Corporation: Arial, Arial Narrow, Times New Roman, and Courier New.
For these fonts there are metric-compatable fonts that can be used without
restriction. These are Liberation Sans, Liberation Sans Narrow, Liberation
Serif and Liberation Mono. The user software (usually the office suite) should
use these as replacement for the Monotype fonts. Because of the metric
compatibility, the line-breaking and line heights should be identical.
Users of Microsoft Office are unlikely to have the Liberation fonts available.
So it is best to use only Arial, Arial Narrow, Times New Roman, and Courier
New or the free versions from Liberation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts
Note that this is theory and a simple set of test documents to verify this
theory would help.
> - tabs cause problems in rendering, especially for the web. Tables are more
> suited, for instance for aligning left - middle - right texts (preventing
> the 'right' text to continue on a new line)
Tabs can indeed be a problem. Currently no HTML representation known to me can
faithfully represent them. This problem is no impossible to overcome though.
The tabs could be emulated by an element for which a custom with is
calculated.
> - horizontal lines sometimes get thicker or even doubled.
This is a problem in the implementations that should result in bug reports to
the faulty applications. Details on which applications are buggy in this
respect are welcome. Filing bug reports to the relevant applications would be
much appreciated. If in doubt whether this is an issue in the specification or
in an implementation, one can start a discussion on the public ODF Techinical
Committe mailing list. (see below).
> - numbering of one letter generated for multiple (24) addressees: the page
> numbering for page two should be '2/2' , not '2/48' (but probably due to
> error on the generating side).
Some implementations do not regenerate the automatic field values when loading
a file. This might be the cause for the issue. Which file shows this problem in
which application?
> For "akte van geboorte" (Birth certificate), I've included:
> Aia I-2 akte van geboorte v2.odt (11Kb)
> Centric I-2 akte van geboorte v2.odt (7Kb)
> On behalf of Aia and Centric respectively.
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Best regards,
Jos van den Oever
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