[Plugtest-org] Evidently another Plugfest in Berlin?

Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamilton at acm.org
Sun Jun 24 19:40:25 CEST 2012 

At the same time, it is undesirable to conflict with conferences where many of the developers will be attending with respect to their own products, participating in conference development, etc.  It now looks like this:

2012-10-16/19 Berlin, LibreOffice 2012 Conference
2012-10-18/19 Santiago de Compostela, Spain, LSWC 12
2012-11-05/09 Sinsheim, Germany, ApacheCon 2012 Europe (Apache OpenOffice track in planning)

I assume other conflicts will come to light, even limiting to those with an open-source focus.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:luispo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:05
To: Alberto Barrionuevo
Cc: Hanssens Bart; Arthur Buijs; Michiel Leenaars; robert_weir at us.ibm.com; dennis.hamilton at acm.org; charles-h.schulz at arsaperta.com; plugtest-organisers at opendocsociety.org
Subject: Re: [Plugtest-org] Evidently another Plugfest in Berlin?

All,

On 2012-06-24, at 08:46 , Alberto Barrionuevo wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
>   when are you planning to hold it?
> 
>   Depending on dates, this could be another possibility:
> 
> http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.com
> 
>   Surely it is more neutral than an OOOconf, and there is space for many parallel events in it. The venue is one of the biggest ones in Spain, so no problems because rooms. Also, it is near to the north of Portugal.
> 
>   This third edition of the event is organized by our Spanish association of open source and open standards companies, and usually we include other events in it. Of course, it would be open to some of you as speakers in the general conference.


I would strongly suggest we do not link this or any future ODF plugfest to any OO (or implementation-specific) event, including AOOi, LibreOffice or whatever.

We have something valuable, in addition to the standard. We have independence and impartiality.  That's why I would agree with Alberto that an event that is not by any stretch linked to any specific implementation of ODF be seriously considered. The event is also as Alberto describes it: Big, important, and in an area that will, in all likelihood, be shockingly pertinent.


> 
> Best,
> //Alberto.

best
Louis


> 
> 
> El 23/06/12 12:17, Hanssens Bart escribió:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> I was talking to Charles about having a plugfest in Paris or Portugal, he suggested Berlin might be interesting, which is fine with me,
>> on the condition that it would be like the ODF Plugfest / OpenOffice conference in Orvieto: that is, one location, two _separate_ events.
>> (and I do stress "separate" here)
>> 
>> So, the idea was _not_ to send our press releases or issue a CFP under the LO umbrella...
>> 
>> Now, a conference call was to be scheduled next week, and Charles kindly offered to provide the teleconf services.
>> However, we haven't received the conf call meeting request yet (but since Charles is getting married, he might have forgotten to send it)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bart
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: plugtest-organisers-bounces at nlnet.nl [plugtest-organisers-bounces at nlnet.nl] On Behalf Of Arthur Buijs [arthur at artietee.nl]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 11:28 AM
>> To: Michiel Leenaars; robert_weir at us.ibm.com; 'Louis Suárez-Potts'; dennis.hamilton at acm.org
>> Cc: plugtest-organisers at opendocsociety.org
>> Subject: Re: [Plugtest-org] Evidently another Plugfest in Berlin?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> as far as I know we are not planning an ODF Plugfest in Berlin.
>> 
>> --
>> Regards/groeten,
>> Arthur Buijs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original message-----
>> To:     'Louis Suárez-Potts'<luispo at gmail.com>; robert_weir at us.ibm.com;
>> CC:     plugtest-organisers at opendocsociety.org;
>> From:   Dennis E. Hamilton<dennis.hamilton at acm.org>
>> Sent:   Fri 22-06-2012 20:27
>> Subject:        Re: [Plugtest-org] Evidently another Plugfest in Berlin?
>>> I assume that there is no visibility because there had been no public
>>> discussion.
>>> 
>>> The OpenDocumentSociety site and wiki have nothing about a Plugfest being
>>> developed since the April 2012 Brussels one.
>>> 
>>> There has been co-location with an OpenOffice.org conference in the past but
>>> that was at the request of plugfest planners, not vice versa, as I recall.
>>> 
>>> The LibreOffice2012 announcement contains an ODF Plugfest link, but it is to an
>>> odfplugfest.de domain that was used for the last one in Berlin.  The Call for
>>> papers does indeed include an ODF Plugfest as a topic/theme/track area.
>>> 
>>> I suppose this is one of those, "say it is so that it will become so" actions.
>>> (The form I recently heard this disputed was in "saying your [whatever] is
>>> secure does not make it secure" [;<).
>>> 
>>>  - Dennis
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: plugtest-organisers-bounces at nlnet.nl
>>> [mailto:plugtest-organisers-bounces at nlnet.nl] On Behalf Of Louis Suárez-Potts
>>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:50
>>> To: robert_weir at us.ibm.com
>>> Cc: plugtest-organisers at opendocsociety.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Plugtest-org] Evidently another Plugfest in Berlin?
>>> 
>>> Hm. Bit of a surprise to me, too. We had discussed on the OIC call
>>> last Wednesday week the idea of a time frame and possibly location
>>> (Europe) but that was it; I had suggested it better we stick with
>>> really neutral spaces for the plugfest.
>>> 
>>> Louis
>>> 
>>> On 22 June 2012 13:34,<robert_weir at us.ibm.com>  wrote:
>>>> I'm surprised that I'm reading this in the press when no discussion or
>>>> proposal has been made on this list, but there appears to be another ODF
>>>> Plugfest in Berlin scheduled for November:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-Conference-2012-Call-for-Pape
>>> rs-announced-1623270.html
>>>> 
>>>> Or did I miss something?
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob
>>>> 
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