[Plugtest-org] Announcement of ODF plugfest Programme Committee

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Patrick,


Le 19/10/2011 15:05, Patrick Durusau a écrit :
> Charles,
> 
> This is my first foray as a member of a program committee for ODF.
> 
> Pardon but did you actually propose someone from the Document Foundation?


Not until today, as I had not understood the matter was urgent,
otherwise I might have done things quicker.

> 
> I understood the process to be that people were to be proposed, even
> self-proposed, etc.


Yes, although there was only one nomination, and the full process was
not taking place on any list I am subscribed to.


> 
> So if the Document Foundation is absent, is it because they failed to
> propose someone?

No, it is because the process was 1) not documented enough (nominations?
ballot? wiki to nominate people? deadline? it's all right not to have
all this, but then surprizes may happen) 2) not clear to me, and I'm
obviously partially to blame given the general schedule.


> 
> Rather than reply to your: "Do expect that we will not leave this
> unanswered." I would suggest that if the Document Foundation wants to
> propose someone, then that be allowed to happen (rules not withstanding).
> 
> Let's not waste cycles and energy in spats between the participants.
> That does not advance the cause of ODF.


I would not call that wasting cycles but rather making sure every
stakeholder is represented and the details well crafted out. Anything
non-transparent ultimately hurts the confidence in the ODF ecosystem.

Best,

Charles.

> 
> Hope you are having a great day!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> On 10/19/2011 8:55 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> Arthur,
>>
>> I am surprized by the sheer absence of anyone from the Document
>> Foundation despite my stated intent to propose someone. It
>> demonstrates the bias of this committee, that is formed of competitors
>> and vocal adversaries of the Libreoffice project who are neither
>> implementors nor representatives of ODF users. I am very sad that sort
>> of decision was reached. I believe it demonstrate a clear intent to
>> blacklist one of the major ODF implementors.
>>
>> Do expect that we will not leave this unanswered.
>>
>> Charles.
>> -- 
>> Envoyé de mon téléphone Android avec K-9 Mail. Excusez la brièveté.
>>
>>
>> Arthur Buijs <arthur at artietee.nl> a écrit :
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     there were 10 candidates for the Programme Committee, with one candiate 
>>     challenged by another member of the community on grounds of partiality. 
>>     We have investigated this challenge, and came to the conclusion that it 
>>     would not be fair to bar the candidate for this specific committee due 
>>     to his past relationship with other projects. We have discussed this 
>>     with the member of the community who put forward his challenge, and he 
>>     has withdrawn the challenge.
>>
>>     The task for which the PC is responsible (deciding upon the programme of 
>>     the non-technical part of the plugfest) is very limited in both time and 
>>     nature and (as per experience) is unlikely to lead to lack of rough 
>>     consensus among the members.
>>
>>     Since we expect all members of the Programme Committee to behave in a 
>>     mature and responsible manner anyway, the
>>     full list of candidates is 
>>     accepted and the PC will consist of the following people:
>>
>>     - Alan Bell (OFE)
>>     - Basil Cousins (OFE)
>>     - Patrick Durusau (Individual)
>>     - Roberto Galoppini (Individual)
>>     - Bart Hanssens (Fedict)
>>     - Michiel Leenaars (OpenDoc Society, NLnet foundation)
>>     - Doug Mahugh (Microsoft)
>>     - Jos van den Oever (WebODF, KO GmbH)
>>     - Louis-Suarez Potts
>>     - Rob Weir (IBM)
>>
>>     In addition Joris Dirks from the Netherlands government programme NoiV 
>>     will be part of the programme committee as representative of the local 
>>     organisation for the Gouda Plugfest.
>>
>>     The first meeting will be this Thursday 15h00 UTC (17h00 CET), we will 
>>     send out the details shortly.
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Regards/groeten,
>>     Arthur Buijs
>>      
>>     Artietee
>>     [t] +31 (0)416 665133
>>     [m] +31 (0)6 54668131
>>      
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